Denise Stephens, ZOI CEO (00:00):

So now, Susan, we're going to come to you and I believe your first step with the next question. So take it away, Susan.

ZOI Advisor  (00:09):

Thank you, Denise so much. And Dr. Nikolaos, it's always a pleasure. I'm so always so humbled to see you. And we thank you for your truth and your transparency hopping on here and just answering these questions for us, for everybody else. Just, I couldn't imagine anybody else being able to do that, but the person who formulated this product for us. So we do know the impact. We do know the magnitude of this product and something to dive into a little bit more is about the fact that this can cross the cellular membrane. So when people come up, and ask us about this, we talk to them about why would you, they're already taking a product, right? And we don't, we say, why would you stop at the gut? Yes. Good. That's great. You're working in the gut. Why would you stop there? So our question is, is how did you discover that all of the other detoxes are not capable of working and getting outside of the gut?

Dr. Nikolaos Tsirikos-Karapanos, PharmD, MD, Cardiothoracic Surgeon  (01:05):

We did not discover that. Physiology, pharmacology, medical sciences have discovered this the last 20 centuries. It's not our finding. Substances that are in water solution or behave as they are in water solution, have the capability to be absorbed in the gut. Substances that are not in solution, pure solids, cannot be adjourned. Okay. We conducted the first, and to our knowledge the only appropriate study. Not only in the domain of zeolites, not even in the domain of detox dietary supplements, but to the best of our knowledge, again, in the whole domain of dietary supplements. We have conducted the first and only appropriate study to test the hypothesis that our water-soluble zeolite fragments have the capability to cross cellular membranes. And the results confirm that. And the results are available to the public and in everybody that has access to a computer and internet can read the results in our patterns. All of this information is available to the public.

Denise Stephens, ZOI CEO  (02:33):

Thank you, Susan, for that, for that question. And it is one that we get, it does make you wonder. And I love what you just said, Dr. Nikolaos, that you, your, your pharm D and I love the way you say this, you know, you've got, you're a medical doctor, you're a pharmacist, a cardiothoracic surgeon. And the one, the one degree they qualified you as a zeolite expert was a pharm D. And so I thought that was brilliant.

Dr. Nikolaos Tsirikos-Karapanos, PharmD, MD, Cardiothoracic Surgeon  (03:05):

Cardiovascular surgeons don't deal with zeolites. They deal with heart and heart problems. Medical doctors are not, never, they don't have in the curriculum of academic studies. The necessary knowledge is not provided to them in order to become formulators. You become a formulator as a pharmacist, after five studies, five years of studies in an (slight technical difficulties causing inaudible seconds) chemistry, medicinal chemistry, analytical chemistry, synthetic chemistry, food chemistry, synthesis, and analysis of drugs. You need all the above in order to be able to understand the dynamics in the chemistry, in a solution, in a formulation or in a suspension. So what qualified me, 5 years of Studies at the University of Athens in the school of pharmacy.